[Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer

Tim Burgess tim at raisedbar.net
Thu Oct 2 08:13:11 PDT 2008 

I'm afraid there's no version numbers, but it won't cost you anything to
download and copy over.  


Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

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-----Original Message-----
From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
Of Justin Daubenmire
Sent: 02 October 2008 15:33
To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer

How do I find the version number for the hsc set I have installed?

Is there anyway to hear it or view it? I don't have the setup file anymore
that I used.

Regards,
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer


> The same, I'm afraid.  I'll keep thinking, but I can't see the reason for
> your problem at the moment.  Are you using the latest version of HSC 
> (1.92)
> and the latest Session Drummer sets?  You can check both at
> www.hotspotclicker.org
>
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
> Raised Bar Ltd
> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>
> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
>
> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Justin Daubenmire
> Sent: 02 October 2008 15:16
> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>
> Thanks Tim for testing this for me.
>
> My screen resolution is 1024 by 768.
>
> what is yours at?
>
> thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Justin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hat to tell you this, but I can't reproduce your problem, even after 
>> going
>> through your steps.  What screen resolution are you using, as a matter of
>> interest?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Tim Burgess
>> Raised Bar Ltd
>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>
>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
>>
>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Justin Daubenmire
>> Sent: 02 October 2008 14:41
>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Did you try performing the following if time permits on your end?
>>
>> 1. start a brand new sonar project
>> 2. insert session drummer 2 soft synth
>> 3. pull up the session drummer 2 dialog and load custom wav sounds onto
>> each
>> pad 4. use the instrument menu to save it as a .kit file 6. save the
>> project
>> and exit 7. reopen sonar/your project 8. go to the synth rack view 9.
>> press
>> p for properties of session drummer 2 10. hsc sets should load 11.  then
>> press alt+1 and I only get spoken external vst plug in window and no
>> context
>> menu.
>>
>> Can you confirm if this is the case on your end too?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Justin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>
>>
>>> OK, I've experienced that once this morning, but a second press of the
>>> Alt+1
>>> overcame the issue and I got the menu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>
>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology 
>>> at
>>>
>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Justin Daubenmire
>>> Sent: 02 October 2008 12:59
>>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> No error message, but I do hear "external vst window" spoken to me in
>>> place
>>> of the context menu popping open.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Justin
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
>>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do you get any error message when you perform the Alt+1?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Burgess
>>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology
>>>> at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Justin Daubenmire
>>>> Sent: 02 October 2008 11:45
>>>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>
>>>> My kit is not listed in the browser. Perhaps I should somehow move it
>>>> there
>>>> but I would think it doesn't matter since the kit file points to all 
>>>> the
>>>> wav
>>>> files you are using for the kit. Anyhow, while at the session drummer 2
>>>> dialog, you can select an instrument context menu which has options of
>>>> load
>>>> kit and save kit. So I did try loading the kit file again but still no
>>>> luck.
>>>>
>>>> That is, I opened up session drummer 2, selected instrument, chose load
>>>> kit,
>>>> and browsed to my .kit file and loaded it. I then pressed alt+1 and no
>>>> context menu still. However, it did load the kit.
>>>>
>>>> If there ever is a pickle, I find it! *sigh*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Justin
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
>>>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What happens if, before you try to modify the pad assignment, you 
>>>>> bring
>>>>> up
>>>>> the browser then choose the kit that you've created.  I understand 
>>>>> that
>>>>> this
>>>>> is reloading something that's already loaded, but it might be a useful
>>>>> thing
>>>>> to try and might help the troubleshooting process.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Burgess
>>>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>>>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology
>>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Justin Daubenmire
>>>>> Sent: 02 October 2008 11:27
>>>>> To: General discussion of the JSonar project
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be why it is not working. I never used a kit from the
>>>>> alt+shift+b
>>>>> keystroke. I have my own wav files for drum sounds. I start a new
>>>>> project
>>>>> and open the session drummer properties dialog. There is no kit loaded
>>>>> at
>>>>> all. I then use alt+1 and load a wav file to it. I repeat this for all
>>>>> 10
>>>>> pads. I.E I load my own wav drum sounds to them. I then select the
>>>>> instrument menu and choose save kit and save it as a file such as my
>>>>> rock
>>>>> set.kit. Past this point, I close the session drummer dialog and 
>>>>> record
>>>>> my
>>>>> song. Now I always have this kit file loaded when my project opens. 
>>>>> I.E
>>>>> sonar knows that my kit file is loaded when I open the project file so
>>>>> I
>>>>> never have to manually load the kit file. When I want to change a pad
>>>>> to
>>>>> have a different sound, it will not work as previously explained. I
>>>>> wonder
>>>>> if this is why changing the pad sound is not working? Meaning, I don't
>>>>> use
>>>>> the alt+shift+b browser to select the  kit, I always build my own kit
>>>>> from
>>>>> scratch/my own wav file sounds and save it as a kit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever built your own kit as I have explained and then were 
>>>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>> change the pads? In theory, I dont' see why what I have performed
>>>>> should
>>>>> change the pad context menus but it is on my end. Maybe I need to put
>>>>> my
>>>>> kit
>>>>> in the same folder that the session drummer 2 browser has all kits?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: Justin Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> When in the Session Drummer 2 ineterface, press the HSC keystroke,
>>>>> Alt Shift B, I think or, control plus shift plus Alt plus B.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info at philmuir.com
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Justin Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: Phil Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:13 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session
>>>>> drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil, when you say...
>>>>>
>>>>> I use the program browser to load up the session drummer 2
>>>>> programme
>>>>>
>>>>> what is the program browser and what are the steps to get to
>>>>> it? The way I am getting to session drummer pad 1 is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. open my project
>>>>> 2. go to the synth rack view and down arrow to session
>>>>> drummer 2
>>>>> 3. press the letter p for the properties of the session
>>>>> drummer 2 so the session drummer 2 properties dialog opens
>>>>> 4. hsc session drummer sets are loaded automatically
>>>>> 5. press alt+1 for pad 1 to try to access the context menu -
>>>>> nothing happens and I hear vst external plug in window.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly, the hsc tab sequence works with hsc mod + tab and
>>>>> shift tab even though the pad context menus will not appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you are performing this a different way and this is
>>>>> why it is working for you and not for me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know how you are doing this step by step.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: Justin Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in
>>>>> session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>> ok, I'll reinstall. You are performing alt+1 on a
>>>>> set that was previously saved, right? I.E you load a kit/set in your
>>>>> project
>>>>> and use it and now are pressing alt+1 to change the pad 1 sound. Is
>>>>> this
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil replied: correct.  I use the program browser to
>>>>> load up the session drummer 2 programme then, closed out the programme
>>>>> browser with Alt F4.  Then, pressing Alt and the number 1, caused the
>>>>> menu
>>>>> to open for pad 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin wrote: btw what jsonar version are you
>>>>> running?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil replied: tested this in Sonar 5 and 7.  By the
>>>>> way, I hope that any of you who are using .HSC sets, don't have your
>>>>> plug-in
>>>>> Windows docked.  I know this used to be recommended in the JSonar read
>>>>> me
>>>>> however, this will definitely cause sets to not work as advertised. 
>>>>> If
>>>>> this
>>>>> information is still recommended in the JSonar readme then, this
>>>>> information
>>>>> should be updated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info at philmuir.com
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Justin Daubenmire
>>>>> <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: Phil Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds
>>>>> in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, I'll reinstall. You are performing alt+1
>>>>> on a set that was previously saved, right? I.E you load a kit/set in
>>>>> your
>>>>> project and use it and now are pressing alt+1 to change the pad 1
>>>>> sound.
>>>>> Is
>>>>> this correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> btw what jsonar version are you running?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>> <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: Justin Daubenmire
>>>>> <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008
>>>>> 2:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum
>>>>> sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> Your .HSC set isn't working as
>>>>> advertised.  Have tried it here and if i use the keystroke, Alt plus
>>>>> number
>>>>> 1 on the top numbers row then, it brings up the menu for pad 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info at philmuir.com
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Justin Daubenmire
>>>>> <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: Phil Muir
>>>>> <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01,
>>>>> 2008 4:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar]
>>>>> changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunatley, this did not
>>>>> work. I press alt+1 then hear external vst window. I then press the
>>>>> jaws
>>>>> right mouse button and no context menu pops up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original
>>>>> Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>> <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: Justin
>>>>> Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,
>>>>> October 01, 2008 10:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> try selecting the
>>>>> pad with Alt 1.  Then, press the jaws right mouse button to click on
>>>>> the
>>>>> menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir
>>>>> Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio
>>>>> Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615)
>>>>> 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK
>>>>> +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info at philmuir.com
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Justin
>>>>> Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: Phil
>>>>> Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>  ; JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for 
>>>>> Sonar
>>>>> list
>>>>> <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>> Sent:
>>>>> Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>> When I press
>>>>> alt+1 for pad1, the context menu doesn't appear. I just hear vst
>>>>> external
>>>>> window. I then press the applications key and nothing happens. 
>>>>> However,
>>>>> selecting the instrument menu works and immediately the context menu
>>>>> appears
>>>>> for load/unload.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I press
>>>>> alt+1, I am assuming it selects the pad but I am unable to right click
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would have thought that you would just load a different kick into pad
>>>>> one.
>>>>> Mind you, you will probably need to clear pad one first.  Think that
>>>>> may
>>>>> be
>>>>> an option on the right click menu for pad one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J
>>>>> Muir Productions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>
>>>>> info at philmuir.com
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Justin Daubenmire <mailto:jdaubenm at yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: General discussion of the JSonar project 
>>>>> <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:09 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [Jsonar] changing drum sounds in session drummer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a drum kit using session drummer and saved it. I now want to
>>>>> change the kick drum sound but cannot figure out how to do this with 
>>>>> an
>>>>> already saved and loaded set.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The saved kit is already loaded and used in a song. I bring up the
>>>>> session
>>>>> drummer 2 dialog to change the kick drum sound. I first choose pad 1,
>>>>> which
>>>>> is my kick, to select it. I then select instrument menu to load a new
>>>>> kick
>>>>> sound to pad 1. However, this doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I have an existing kit loaded and it was already saved. I am 
>>>>> now
>>>>> trying to change the kick drum on that saved kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this possible? If yes, how?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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