[Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 7.1, Sonar 7.02 and Windows Vista SP 1

Fri Oct 10 11:01:16 PDT 2008

I got my info from some of my students, trying to configure things to 
work, and them not working, user reviews, the DAW vendors I use, and 
other relevent info.

Do I run vista here, no I don't.

But you can make a pretty educated guess by not stepping in a pile of 
dog crap if someone tells you it's there 'grin'.

I avoided windows millenium for just that reason, and then when I 
broke down and tried it, I fears were realized.

I can't say vista is worthless for all situations, or that some 
improvements weren't made, and some technologies improved.

But what god is a litle better multi-tasking in some cases, if your 
scripts won't work right, or your plug-ins mis-behave or in the worst 
cases, which is still very common, there are no drivers for your 
hard-ware or the ones that are in place are first generation, crummy ones.

My careful and cautious progression through technology has served me well.

But I am glad you have found some aspects of vista that are to your liking.

let's see if they out-weigh the headaches.

But the power users here, and the folks in the know and who are 
leading the pack are staying away from vista with good reason when it 
comes to serious audio production.

Good luck, and I hope I didn't give offense.

At 11:32 AM 10/10/2008, you wrote:
>Hey chriss,
>have you tried sonar and any other audio apps on vista, or are these 
>statements based on other facts that are verifiable?
>The reason why I ask is that I'm pretty amaced by the smooth multi 
>tasking abilities of Vista on a modern dual core pc, which I haven't 
>discovered with xp.
>But as I also stated earlier win our adaptive software in this case 
>jaws did not work very good with vista out of the box.
>We did have to wait for the 9.0 to come out.
>
>Brian
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 7.1, Sonar 
>7.02 and Windows Vista SP 1
>
>
>>No arguments man, just trying to keep you from making a costly and 
>>frustrating mistake.
>>
>>Think about it, did you ever hear any major vendors not recommend 
>>the latest money maker out from ms, they get pressured a lot.
>>
>>But suit yourself, and when things don't work, you'll know why.
>>
>>
>>At 03:45 AM 10/10/2008, you wrote:
>>>hi,
>>>But please let me know. Why is it many pc producers are 
>>>recommending Vista on their home page?
>>>
>>>any way. I don't wana argue about this. Vista is nice in fact very 
>>>nice on the net, and even gamers enjoy Vista 64 very very much.
>>>I don't remember, if my laptop ever has had one single instance of 
>>>a blue screen or even a spontanious restart. I really doubt it.
>>>Vista servicepack 1 works quite nice on this machine.
>>>
>>>But I admit a music daw optimised xp home is a very nice 
>>>expearience endeed. I use one myself.
>>>
>>>Best regards
>>>Brian
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rugman" <danrugman at hotmail.com>
>>>To: "'Phil Muir'" <philmuir1 at hotmail.com>; "'JSonar -- JAWS 
>>>Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:17 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 
>>>7.1,Sonar 7.02 and Windows Vista SP 1
>>>
>>>
>>>>Indeed.  Those of us that see  Vista related problems cropping up left,
>>>>right and centre begin to take a rather brash approach to giving 
>>>>out advice.
>>>>As the saying goes "what can you do but laugh".
>>>>
>>>>Seriously though, Vista has become a bit of a joke.  Most of the major
>>>>computer system resellers, like Del, sell XP machines because 
>>>>they know that
>>>>there are a very large number of clients who simply won't accept a Vista
>>>>machine.  Even more revealing is the fact that Microsoft have continued
>>>>development on XP.
>>>>
>>>>Vista has caused all sorts of problems for all sorts of people and the
>>>>advice in the music business is to avoid Vista like the plague.  This isn't
>>>>just carping, it's based on real and often very grim experiences.
>>>>Admittedly, if you're machine is powerful enough then you might be able to
>>>>use Vista and think that it's acceptable, but that's just because your
>>>>machine is able to beat Vista into submission.  Just think how 
>>>>powerful your
>>>>machine will be with XP instead.
>>>>
>>>>To put this in simple terms: Vista is famous for the way it slows down a
>>>>system, whereas XP service pack 3 gives XP systems a 10% increase in
>>>>efficiency.  In other words, XP is faster than Vista and XP service pack 3
>>>>is even faster again.  And if the increased performance isn't enough to win
>>>>the argument then the fact that XP is more stable than Vista should be.
>>>>
>>>>That's the serious advice.
>>>>
>>>>Dan Rugman
>>>>
>>>>Visit www.musicaccess.co.uk
>>>>The new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of
>>>>Sibelius Access.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org 
>>>>[mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
>>>>Of Phil Muir
>>>>Sent: 09 October 2008 22:46
>>>>To: Brian Olesen; JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>>>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 
>>>>7.1,Sonar 7.02 and
>>>>Windows Vista SP 1
>>>>
>>>>Bryan wrote: What about a serious advice?
>>>>
>>>>Phil replied: that was it.  When will people learn to stay away from
>>>>Vista??? smile!
>>>>
>>>>Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>
>>>>P J Muir Productions,
>>>>Music And Audio Production
>>>>Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>E-mail:
>>>>info at philmuir.com
>>>>URL:
>>>>www.philmuir.com/
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Brian Olesen" <brian at blindkom.dk>
>>>>To: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1 at hotmail.com>; "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar
>>>>list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:59 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 
>>>>7.1,Sonar 7.02 and
>>>>Windows Vista SP 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hi,
>>>>>no no no.
>>>>>please downgrade to windows 3.1. lol
>>>>>
>>>>>What about a serious advice?
>>>>>
>>>>>Brian
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:28 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 7.1,Sonar
>>>>>7.02 and Windows Vista SP 1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Get a downgrade to Windows XP.  Your system will run way faster under
>>>>>>XP anyway and everything will work as advertised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>>P J Muir Productions,
>>>>>>Music And Audio Production
>>>>>>Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>>UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>>Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>>E-mail:
>>>>>>info at philmuir.com
>>>>>>URL:
>>>>>>www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Chris Nestrud" <ccn at panix.com>
>>>>>>To: <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:45 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [Jsonar] Control surface problem with JSonar 7.1,Sonar 7.02
>>>>>>and Windows Vista SP 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello list,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm using JSonar 7.1 for Cakewalk Sonar 7.02 and Windows Vista SP 1
>>>>>>>along with JFW 9.0.2169. The JSonar control surface is installed and
>>>>>>>appears in the Controlers/Surfaces dialog. I have run through the
>>>>>>>recommended configuration steps in the FAQ. However it looks like
>>>>>>>the goJSonar object is not successfully created. The CreateObject
>>>>>>>statement always returns false.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I've already tried:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I removed the JSonar control surface and recreated it, making sure
>>>>>>>that both ports were set to none.
>>>>>>>I then restarted Sonar. The goJSonar object was not created (the
>>>>>>>object was still null immediately after the CreateObject statement
>>>>>>>in sonarsrfutil.jsl). I next removed the entry for the surface that
>>>>>>>I had created and restarted Sonar. Of course it asked to run the
>>>>>>>setup wizard since the surface was not installed. I ran the wizard,
>>>>>>>then checked in the control surface dialog and found that the
>>>>>>>surface had been added by the JSonar scripts. The name was "JSonar
>>>>>>>Control Surface
>>>>>>>- 1" and both ports were set to none. The goJSonar object was not
>>>>>>>successfully created.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have, and would be happy to
>>>>>>>provide any additional information that you think might be helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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