[Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?

Mon Oct 27 08:23:51 PDT 2008

Just out of curiosity then, is jaws meant to stop working when using
sonar under WDM, or is it dependant on other factors such as the type
of sound card?

On 24/10/2008, joe <mail at joekenny.net> wrote:
> I used to always use wdm but i could never get the latency of the record
> monitoring down enough to be useful, i could only do that with asio, i've a
> p4 3ghz machine  wit only 1 gb of ram, shame on me!lol
> oh yeah with sonar 7.
> Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
> To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>
>
>>I find Tim's results with Sonar 8 interesting as historically, Delta ASIO
>> drivers are supposedly better written than their WDM one's.  Just goes to
>> show how dramatically results can be improved with drivers, if an
>> application is significantly recoded.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
>> P J Muir Productions,
>> Music And Audio Production
>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>> E-mail:
>> info at philmuir.com
>> URL:
>> www.philmuir.com/
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>
>>
>>> Well, Phil Muir's posted on the big improvement he's seen using WDM
>>> drivers
>>> with his FW1884 and I've got the same level of improvement here using WDM
>>> and a Delta 66, so this is an inadequacy of the documentation, rather
>>> than
>>> a
>>> technology gap.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>
>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
>>>
>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Brian Olesen
>>> Sent: 23 October 2008 07:35
>>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>>
>>> hi Yamuna
>>> I'm sure it's still a matter of hardware and which driver you use, what
>>> works the best asio versus wdm.
>>> but they only talk about asio support has improved in sonar 8 in the
>>> what's
>>> new section, not a single word about wdm.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Yamuna Jivana dasa <mailto:ykhandoo at webmail.co.za>
>>> To: jsonar at jsonar.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:40 AM
>>> Subject: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>> Up until Sonar 5 as I can remember, everyone was talking about Asio
>>> being a more robust audio route.
>>> From the recent posts, especially the article on Sonar under Vista,
>>> as well as Phil's recent post on his findings with WDM under Sonar 8,
>>> where
>>> he is able to reduce the latency much further, do you guys think we need
>>> to
>>> reconsider our initial assumption of Asio as the smoother option over
>>> WDM?
>>> Has anyone played with Asio latency under Sonar 8?  The Asio panel
>>> usually brings up my Motu 896HD interface where latency among other
>>> things
>>> are adjustable.
>>> Or is it possible that whether asio or WDM is better, may depend on
>>> the sound card in use and the drivers and support for each interface?
>>>
>>> Your opinions will be appreciated, and I'm sure in most cases
>>> educational for us all! <smile>
>>>
>>> Yamuna Jivana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Jsonar mailing list
>>> Jsonar at jsonar.org
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1 at hotmail.com>
> To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>
>
>>I find Tim's results with Sonar 8 interesting as historically, Delta ASIO
>> drivers are supposedly better written than their WDM one's.  Just goes to
>> show how dramatically results can be improved with drivers, if an
>> application is significantly recoded.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
>> P J Muir Productions,
>> Music And Audio Production
>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>> E-mail:
>> info at philmuir.com
>> URL:
>> www.philmuir.com/
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim at raisedbar.net>
>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>
>>
>>> Well, Phil Muir's posted on the big improvement he's seen using WDM
>>> drivers
>>> with his FW1884 and I've got the same level of improvement here using WDM
>>> and a Delta 66, so this is an inadequacy of the documentation, rather
>>> than
>>> a
>>> technology gap.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>
>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
>>>
>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Brian Olesen
>>> Sent: 23 October 2008 07:35
>>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>>
>>> hi Yamuna
>>> I'm sure it's still a matter of hardware and which driver you use, what
>>> works the best asio versus wdm.
>>> but they only talk about asio support has improved in sonar 8 in the
>>> what's
>>> new section, not a single word about wdm.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Yamuna Jivana dasa <mailto:ykhandoo at webmail.co.za>
>>> To: jsonar at jsonar.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:40 AM
>>> Subject: [Jsonar] Sonar8: WDM Vs Asio?
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>> Up until Sonar 5 as I can remember, everyone was talking about Asio
>>> being a more robust audio route.
>>> From the recent posts, especially the article on Sonar under Vista,
>>> as well as Phil's recent post on his findings with WDM under Sonar 8,
>>> where
>>> he is able to reduce the latency much further, do you guys think we need
>>> to
>>> reconsider our initial assumption of Asio as the smoother option over
>>> WDM?
>>> Has anyone played with Asio latency under Sonar 8?  The Asio panel
>>> usually brings up my Motu 896HD interface where latency among other
>>> things
>>> are adjustable.
>>> Or is it possible that whether asio or WDM is better, may depend on
>>> the sound card in use and the drivers and support for each interface?
>>>
>>> Your opinions will be appreciated, and I'm sure in most cases
>>> educational for us all! <smile>
>>>
>>> Yamuna Jivana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Jsonar mailing list
>>> Jsonar at jsonar.org
>>> http://jsonar.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonar_jsonar.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Jsonar mailing list
>>> Jsonar at jsonar.org
>>> http://jsonar.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonar_jsonar.org
>>>
>>
>>
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