[Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 22 11:05:11 PDT 2009 

Yeh, boy this stuff is never ending ain't it 'grin'?

Anyway, short story is that even if I didn't get all the whiz bang 
stuff that comes with sonar 7 and 8, I already have most of that 
anyway, 6 just worked better for me with these video issues, not 
minding tv output or generally behaving.

But I managed to wrestle sonar 7 in to good behavior by plugging in 
monitors and wrestling with the pesky native nvidia control pannel 
and had it working a couple of times, but everytime I ghost, it lost 
it's settings, never could make them stick without monitors plugged 
in all the time, and I like the space more than sonar 7 'grin'.


At 11:31 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
>O OK. Those are standard for that chipset, was asking because the card I
>just ordered is an 8400 chipset, not sure if it's the same as your's,
>different manufacturers add little things here and there that can break or
>make the card. But if you didn't have a monitor plugged in that'll
>definitely cause issues as like I said before, the card assumes that you are
>then using a tv which it can not detect since it can't detect any monitor
>feeds...
>My card will get here tomorrow, will let you know how it goes...
>
>HTH, D!J!X!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
>Of Chris Belle
>Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:39 PM
>To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
>
>Not sure of that, I just know it is an nvidia.
>
>It came in my sonica labs machine, it's a passively cooled model and without
>digging out cpuz or sandra or something I believe it's got
>512 ram on it.
>
>At 08:42 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
> >This was made by who? The card itself, Asus, Zotac, MSI, etc...
> >
> >D!J!X!
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
> >Behalf Of Chris Belle
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:25 PM
> >To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
> >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> >
> >I've got the geeforce 8400 gs
> >
> >No, I didn't disable anything in there, couldn't see where to do that,
> >I had radio buttons where I could pick single monitor or dual monitor
> >and scan for tv, but it seems that when no monitor is hooked up it
> >always wants to go to tv land 'grin'.
> >
> >I'll have to go in there and take a look again, it's not the most
> >accessible thing although I could get at most things some stuff I had
> >to take a guess at or accept defaults like some of the tuning wizzards in
>there.
> >
> >
> >
> >At 12:24 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
> > >Hey Chris, what chipset was the NVidia  card you speak of using? I've
> > >use them on lots of the systems I've built, for blind and sighted
> > >customers and they've worked out good. Not many with Sonar of course,
> > >but I've actually gotten better results with NVidia stuff. Just
> > >asking cuz I ordered a new NVidia card and want to make sure it'll work
>fine.
> > >Also, for your card, did you disable things such as physX and such?
> > >That's probably why you heard the hardware inserted sound when you
> > >went to the control panel, it perhaps disabled it or enabled it
> > >depending on your monitor's capabilities. And those that have video
> > >out such as s-video, component or coaxial out need to be configured
> > >for monitor only, as tv displays will alter the layout because they
> > >can't sometimes handle the resolution of a monitor, and there's no
> > >way of knowing what rez your tv supports/works good at unless you set
> > >it up on the NView control panel. This is known to cause problems.
> > >And if you were using the computer without a monitor, the card
> > >obviously assumed you were then using it with a tv (which it may or
> > >may not detect) so it set the resolution/mode for tv mode instead of
> > >monitor; in video card land, it doesn't make sense to have a computer
> > >without a visual display of any kind
> >attached to it lol...
> > >
> > >HTH, D!J!X!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Chris Belle
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:07 PM
> > >To: info at accessibilitytraining.co.uk; JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for
> > >Sonar list
> > >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > >
> > >Nvidia was the recommended choice for blindies and sighted alike for
> > >audio systems so we went with that, and I've had trouble with ati
> > >adapters before, usually cheaper systems had those on them, but one
> > >never
> >knows huh?
> > >
> > >It depends on the combination of things.
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:31 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Yup, it's your video adapters.  Not seeing any of that at all here
> > > >with ATI video adapters.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Regards, Phil Muir
> > > >Accessibility Training
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> > > >info at accessibilitytraining.co.uk
> > > ><mailto:info at accessibilitytraining.co.uk>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org
> > > >[mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org]On
> > > >Behalf Of Chris Belle
> > > >Sent: 21 October 2009 15:27
> > > >To: joe; JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
> > > >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yeh, things like that and only being able to see one effect on a
> > > >bus at a time and other flaky stuff was what made me give sonar 7 a
> > > >miss for real work.
> > > >
> > > >I could get it to show up sometimes but others not, and one of my
> > > >students had the same problem and we both had similar nvidia
> > > >display adapters.
> > > >
> > > >She plugged a different   monitor and made it work and I plugged one
> > > >in to mine and made it work.
> > > >
> > > >Even though the tv display was the exact same resolution, something
> > > >changed because when I pluged a monitor in to mine, and went in to
> > > >the native control pannel for the display I got the found new
> > > >hardware sound like it found something different, not when I pluged
> > > >the monitor in but when I went in to the control pannel itself, I
> > > >got the sound and then when I checked sonar everything was showing up
>again.
> > > >
> > > >Sonar 6 is happy with things either way, so they changed something
> > > >with the video in sonar 7.
> > > >
> > > >At 08:53 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >Ah, that's interesting, i've just got'n used to only seeing the 3
> > > > >bands on the eq and having to switch to 1 band to toggle the eq
> > > > >enable/disable button.
> > > > >Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle"
> > > > ><cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > >To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <jsonar at jsonar.org>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:42 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>YOu've gotten bitten by the same bug I was bitching about with
> > > > >>sonar
> >7.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It's a video thing, I fixed mine by disabbling tv output, and
> > > > >>re-setting my video display.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>YOu might have to plug in a monitor to do this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>This is one reason I stayed with sonar 6 after all the fuss
> > > > >>because of pesky video issues, this never happens in 6.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>At 07:11 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >>>good to know I'm not alone.  smile
> > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>From: <mailto:ivanfeg at gmail.com>Ivan Fegundez
> > > > >>>To: <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar
> > > > >>>list
> > > > >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:50 PM
> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>yeh I've been having the same issue lately as well.
> > > > >>>Regards,
> > > > >>>Ivan Fegundez.
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> > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>From: <mailto:chadmorrison at mchsi.com>Chad Morrison
> > > > >>>To:
> > > > >>><mailto:info at accessibilitytraining.co.uk>info at accessibilitytrai
> > > > >>>ni ng .co.uk ; <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>JSonar -- JAWS Scripts
> > > > >>>for Sonar list
> > > > >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:27 PM
> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>yes
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>From: <mailto:info at accessibilitytraining.co.uk>Phil Muir
> > > > >>>To: <mailto:jsonar at jsonar.org>'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar
>list'
> > > > >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:28 PM
> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Do you have EQ and plot checked in module options and
> > > > >>>everything else, deselected?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Regards, Phil Muir
> > > > >>>Accessibility Training
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> > > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>From:
> > > > >>><mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org>jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org
> > > > >>>[mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org]On Behalf Of Chad Morrison
> > > > >>>Sent: 20 October 2009 22:50
> > > > >>>To: jsonar
> > > > >>>Subject: [Jsonar] E Q in the inspector pain.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Hello, everyone.  I'm having a little trouble getting all for
> > > > >>>bands of a four band E Q to show up in the inspector pain of
> > > > >>>sonar 7.  I can only get to bands one and two.  in fact, be
> > > > >>>fore I can change the E Q setting to four band I have to make
> > > > >>>shore that the E Q button is in abled before I can switch to a
> > > > >>>four band E Q because after I change to a four band I can't get
> > > > >>>to that
> >button either.
> > > > >>>Any thoughts?  I'm shore it is something simple.
> > > > >>>Thanks
> > > > >>>Chad
> > > > >>>
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