[Jsonar] 32- versus 64-bit

[Phil Muir]

Agreed.  When it comes to audio production, if your doing a straight
comparison between Windows 7 64 bit and Vista 64 bit, Vista sucks!  Had this
very conversation with a friend over here who works with Roland UK.  He was
raving about Windows 7 64 bit, verses Vista 64.  In fact, he's so impressed
with Windows 7 that he's working exclusively with it now.  D! J! X! is right
about the kernel, back ground services etc being handled better on Windows
7.  All way way better than Vista and before you ask, I have worked with
Vista 64 bit.  So Bryan, what are you waiting for?  you don't even need an
absolutely screaming machine or, extra RAM to go up to Windows 7.  Go for
it.  You won't regret it!



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-----Original Message-----
From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org]On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: 21 February 2010 15:42
To: 'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] 32- versus 64-bit


Hey man x64 has been around for a while, But have you played with any of
that? Before vista and windows7, the only thing x64 worth playing with was
windows 2003 server, xp was a joke not to mention no support from anybody
for most of it. Vista even wasn't all that good for audio, I mean I know you
use it and stuff but you are probably one of the few people I know that uses
it, all windows based studios I know of are either using xp still or now
moving to windows7... The thing that makes 7 such a good candidate and which
is worth getting excited about is that the curnel itself is better, stabler
and much better overall! That along with betterr background management
services both in memory and threading have really improved things... So it's
not so much about the platform being new, it's just that it's finally usable
in daws, specially to us, since jaws became 64 bit not so long ago...

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
Of Brian Olesen
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:49 AM
To: 'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] 32- versus 64-bit

Hi,
On the other hand the sise of any data block also increases so don't ever
dream of doubling your data processing. I've ran windows 7 64 bit when it
came out for about 2 weeks. Yes it's quite sweet, but the 32 bit version
also is, so if you in reality get 10 % speed boost you should be lucky.

But of course we should follow the technical advantages that the evolution
provides.
Heheh but some on this list talks about windows 7 64 bit as if it's quite
new and totally improved stuff. We've had 64 bit oses for about 6 or 7
yearsnow, but when all sonar's thirt party plugins and most other important
stuff has been upgraded to 64 bit versions thenthings indeed will be fun.

And as I've said before. Remember that a new operating system needs
up-to-date hardware to run efficiently.
Don't expect that yor 4 years old xp-box will do the job for you.

Best regards
brian
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
Of D!J!X!
Sent: 21. februar 2010 03:40
To: 'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] 32- versus 64-bit

Yes sir, you are right, it's all about increasing the datawidth, other than
the accuracy and speed with which things are calculated/done it makes no
difference... The reason why I mentioned superior is because the program has
a way of limitting say how many samples and of what size it loads into ram,
depending on how much ram it's allowed to use. If you have more ram thanks
to 64bits systems, you can increase that ram limit therefore making the
samples more and of higher quality, resulting in better sound in that
particular program...

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org [mailto:jsonar-bounces at jsonar.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:36 PM
To: jsonar at jsonar.org
Subject: [Jsonar] 32- versus 64-bit

Hi folks.

Someone was asking if things sounded better in 64-bits.
That isn't really the issue outside of the audio algorithms in plug-ins, or
the audio engine in your DAW software.  Cakewalk uses a 64-bit double
precision audio engine, for example, meaning it calculates to that level of
precision (accuracy) whether you have a 32-bit OS and processor, or a 64-bit
OS and processor.

Someone please correct me if I have this wrong, but the way to think of it
is that 64-bit is a wider data pipe.

Imagine taking a pipe say 6 inches wide, and how much water you can push
down it. Now, double the width of the pipe and imagine how much more water
you can push through!
That's the difference, at least when it comes to the operating system.

Chris


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